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		<title>Vintage handtools information</title>
		<link>http://dovetailkid.com/2008/08/30/vintage-handtools-information/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Luis</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[When it comes to information on vintage  woodworking handtools there are three websites that pop right out of the top of  my head.
For  Stanley handplanes there is The Superior Works:  Patrick&#8217;s Blood and Gore, where you&#8217;ll find all the information you&#8217;ll ever  need on these classic tools.
The next time someone [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When it comes to information on vintage  woodworking handtools there are three websites that pop right out of the top of  my head.</p>
<p><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-56" title="Stanley #1 Handplane" src="/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/stanley-n1-handplane-250x232.jpg" alt="Stanley #1 Handplane" width="250" height="232" />For  Stanley handplanes there is <a href="http://www.supertool.com/StanleyBG/stan0a.html">The Superior Works:  Patrick&#8217;s Blood and Gore</a>, where you&#8217;ll find all the information you&#8217;ll ever  need on these classic tools.<span id="more-55"></span></p>
<p>The next time someone refers to one of  Stanley&#8217;s handplanes by their funny numbers you&#8217;ll know exactly what they&#8217;re  talking about.</p>
<p>Next on the list is <a href="http://www.disstonianinstitute.com/">The Disstonian Institute</a>, which  has the name implies will provide you with lot&#8217;s of information on Disston  handsaws.</p>
<p>Last (but not least) on my list is <a href="http://www.oldtoolheaven.com/">A Millers Falls Home Page</a> which  contains a wealth of information on Millers Falls handplanes, hand drills and  bit braces.</p>
<p>Happy reading!</p>
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		<title>Demand for quality handtools</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Luis</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Chisels]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s a known fact that these days there are a lot of handtool makers producing outstanding tools, tools that improve on the vintage ones they&#8217;re based on.
You can no longer say that if you want a good western style chisel you need to get yourself a used Stanley n.750 and restore it to good working [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a known fact that these days there are a lot of handtool makers producing outstanding tools, tools that improve on the vintage ones they&#8217;re based on.</p>
<p><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-66" title="Lie-Nielsen Chisels" src="/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/lie-nielsen-chisels-250x138.jpg" alt="Lie-Nielsen Chisels" width="250" height="138" />You can no longer say that if you want a good western style chisel you need to get yourself a used Stanley n.750 and restore it to good working condition.<span id="more-65"></span></p>
<p>You have manufacturers like Lie-Nielsen that offer a set chisels based on the 750&#8217;s and through the use of better raw materials and manufacturing techniques produce a tool that&#8217;s even better that the original.</p>
<p>But how much are some people willing to pay for these tools?</p>
<p>Recently I was watching a few items on eBay and when the auctions ended I was quite impressed! But maybe not for the right reasons.</p>
<p>One Lie-Nielsen 102 (bronze low angle block plane) sold for $100.99. That is over the retail price and well over the $87 that is advertised in the <a href="http://www.finetoolj.com/LN/blockplanes.html">Fine Tools Journal</a> website. I wonder why would anyone pay over retail price for a used tool&#8230;.</p>
<p>Two other interesting auctions were for vintage Stanley n.750 chisels which sold for $47 and $51 each, quite close to the retail price of a brand new Lie-Nielsen which sells for $50.</p>
<p>Would you rather buy a rusty vintage tool than a brand new one that happens to be even better. Let me know what you think in the comments section&#8230;.</p>
<p><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-67" title="Wenzloff No. 9 Backsaw" src="/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/wenzloff-no9-backsaw-250x129.jpg" alt="Wenzloff No. 9 Backsaw" width="250" height="129" />Another interesting fact is that <a href="http://www.wenzloffandsons.com/">Wenzloff &amp; Sons</a> are no longer taking orders for custom made saws as of August 4, 2008. According to Mike Wenzloff the waiting list for direct orders is well over 4000 saws.</p>
<p>They may resume taking direct orders in the future once they manage to clear the waiting list and there will be a revision of the prices. As it is right now, a custom made dovetail saw would cost you the same as one sold through Lee Valley and when you order directly from Mike you can specify all the details, from the wood species of the handle to how you&#8217;d like the teeth sharpened.</p>
<p>I am on that waiting list since February for two handsaws and it looks like it&#8217;s getting close to my place on the list. How close? Mike said 2-3 weeks some 3 weeks ago. I guess he&#8217;s probably shaping the handles on my saws right now&#8230;. I&#8217;ll post some photos when they arrive.</p>
<p>A last note on the subject of quality tools is the recent announcement that Stanley will be offering a line of handplanes that will be able to compete with the likes of Lie-Nielsen and Veritas, although the prices published by <a href="http://www.woodworking-magazine.com/blog/PermaLink,guid,6039ab77-8d6d-4a90-b5d4-600bf144424a.aspx">The Schwarz</a> on his blog are quite lower that the competition.</p>
<p>Further reading:</p>
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<li><a href="http://www.wkfinetools.com/contrib/cSchwarz/z_art/LNChisel/LN_chisel1.asp">Lie-Nielsen Chisels: Better Than Vintage</a> &#8211; by The Schwarz</li>
<li><a href="http://www.wkfinetools.com/contrib/cSchwarz/z_art/dovSaws/dovSaws-1.asp">Premium Dovetail Saws</a> &#8211; by The Schwarz</li>
<li><a href="http://www.wenzloffandsons.com/saws/index.html">Wenzloff &amp; Sons</a> &#8211; Custom Made Saws</li>
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		<title>Sharpening a handsaw</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 11:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Luis</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sharpening ones tools can be a skill on its own and every woodworker will soon discover that to get the best results, learning how to sharpen will soon become a necessity.
While we are on the subject of saws, here is a link to the best essay I&#8217;ve read on how to sharpen a saw blade:

Saw [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sharpening ones tools can be a skill on its own and every woodworker will soon discover that to get the best results, learning how to sharpen will soon become a necessity.<span id="more-111"></span></p>
<p>While we are on the subject of saws, here is a link to the best essay I&#8217;ve read on how to sharpen a saw blade:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.vintagesaws.com/library/primer/sharp.html">Saw Filing &#8211; A Beginner&#8217;s Primer</a></li>
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<p>Enjoy!</p>
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		<title>The forgotten bowsaw</title>
		<link>http://dovetailkid.com/2008/01/23/the-forgotten-bowsaw/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 01:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Luis</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The bowsaw is one of my favorite saws when I need to do some major sawing. It may not be as fast as a jigsaw or a circular saw, but it gets the job done and I can still listen to some music while I rip through an eight feet long board.
Pictured on the right [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-205" title="GT bowsaw" src="/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/gt-bowsaw-167x250.gif" alt="GT bowsaw" width="167" height="250" />The bowsaw is one of my favorite saws when I need to do some major sawing. It may not be as fast as a jigsaw or a circular saw, but it gets the job done and I can still listen to some music while I rip through an eight feet long board.</p>
<p>Pictured on the right is a small bowsaw, which are usually found in the US and the UK where most bulkier sawing would be done with a large handsaw like a <a href="http://www.disstonianinstitute.com/d8page.html">Disston D-8</a> or similar.<span id="more-112"></span></p>
<p>This type of saw will have a thin narrow blade and is most useful to cut curves.</p>
<p><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-206" title="Frank Klausz bowsaw" src="/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/frank-klausz-bowsaw.jpg" alt="Frank Klausz bowsaw" width="150" height="114" />On the other hand, traditional European bowsaws are larger saws, usually between 24&#8243; and 26&#8243; long.</p>
<p>This type of saw would be used in the continent to cut just about anything.</p>
<p>This saw has a clear advantage over a large panel saw. Because the blade is kept under tension it can be quite thin and the cutting goes much faster since there isn&#8217;t so much wood to remove.</p>
<p>Check out Bug Bear&#8217;s website for the <a href="http://www.geocities.com/plybench/bowsaw.html">famous bowsaw plan</a> and you can make your own bowsaw.</p>
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		<title>A basic set of hand tools &#8211; Part II</title>
		<link>http://dovetailkid.com/2008/01/21/a-basic-set-of-hand-tools-part-ii/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 02:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Luis</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[With so many types of saws to choose from, it may be difficult for the beginner woodworker to decide where to start shopping and where to stop. To make things worse you have both western and Japanese saws to choose from.
Saws
Every toolbox should have at least two handsaws, one filled for rip cuts along the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With so many types of saws to choose from, it may be difficult for the beginner woodworker to decide where to start shopping and where to stop. To make things worse you have both western and Japanese saws to choose from.</p>
<h3>Saws</h3>
<p><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-208" title="Small dovetail saw" src="/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/small-dt-saw-250x156.jpg" alt="Small dovetail saw" width="250" height="156" />Every toolbox should have at least two handsaws, one filled for rip cuts along the grain and another for crosscut. The rip saw, if used for ripping rough lumber, should be around 26&#8243; long with 5 tpi.<span id="more-114"></span></p>
<p>The other essential saw should be a smaller crosscut saw like a 12&#8243; long backsaw with around 13 tpi.</p>
<p>To complement your set of handsaws, and if you want to cut your dovetails by hand, you could add a dovetail saw which is a smaller backsaw with it&#8217;s teeth filled for rip cut and with a higher teeth ratio, usually around 16 tpi.</p>
<p>A small coping saw is also a good addition to any toolbox for those moments when you need to cut a curve on a small piece of wood and want to keep your fingers away from the bandsaw blade.</p>
<p>If you want to try the Japanese saws, the ryoba will be a good starter. This type of saw has teeth on both sides of the blade, one for rip cuts and the other for crosscut. You can pair the ryoba with a dozuki which is the Japanse equivalent of a backsaw. These can be found with both crosscut and ripcut profiles, the later being a great dovetail saw.</p>
<p>Next installment: Chisels</p>
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